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Hi again DLers and Linux Society,

Note keywords: LSB, Harddisk support, SHMFS

I just looked at this and didn't find much too relevant
http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/LSB_1.1.0/gLSB/book1.html

It seems that we will have to use your system as template for our releases and
updates and then somehow be able to supply back scripts which you would then
refine for security purposes.

Also, I dont think our distro should have the packages in them, it defeats the
purpose of our distribution model, which is "on demand"

Getting to the nitty gritty:
Using the sysconfig/network script as an example, neither it nor its location
is mentioned

One problem with the script was that the author used something like 

x=`ls | grep ifcfg-` (dont have it in front of me)

I would write 
x=ifcfg-*

The route line was broken too

Stuff like script style isnt even mentioned.

I would even prefer to use perl so I could eliminate .bak or .old suffixes
Perl isnt mentioned in the LSB either, yet it is an admin staple.

As to packaging... well we unanimously rejected RPMs last night !!

We like:
tar cvf - | ssh -l user host "cd directory ; tar xvf -"

We like yours also, but want to create an alternative to /usr (and not /opt
either)

Then they mention certification, do we really need that headache ??

I think what my boys (and girl ;) want are accepted locations for config files
and scripts and a reasonable expect ion that they are written with good coding
style.  They are assuming that they will find the kindest version in Debian.

Shells, they mention Bash and some other... no busy box !!  No korn shell
either :(

Frankly, it looks like its designed to benefit the big boys...

Heiko Zuerker wrote ( > > ):
> > I don't have any Debian knowledge, but when it's good what you do
> > and we like it, why not change it?

Friedrich Lobenstock wrote ( > ):
> I think we should be LSB compliant, and in the end it should be all
> the same.
> 
> >
> > > They so much love the CD-only solution. They then
> > > suggested we search for a VFAT MSDOS disk as well where we could
> > > set up [ stuff ]

> > This will change in the Beta6. Harddisk support (log, swap,
> > samba,...) is running. DL itself doesn't run anymore in a Ramdisk,
> > we switched to SHMFS (uses, if neccessary, swapspace).
> 

> Currently we use 40 MB SHMFS and we have 64 MB as minimum RAM
> requirement.

> > > Also, they dont like ISO Boot 
> > > DL was trying to boot from the CDWriter, hdc
> > > not the Fast CDreader, hdd.
> >
> > Needs some improvements. ;-)
> 
> It's not a bug it's a feature! 
> We'll fix that in the next beta after 0.5b6.

> 
> > > Ethernet card detection is very high on the list, for obvious
> > > reasons. 
> > If you think so. ;-)
> 
> From a security standpoint I would like the user to specifiy which
> module to load first because otherwise the internal and external
> interface could get swapped.

> But DL for sure could become the standard versatile cdrom distro in
> the future.

Don't you mean LSD/DL ?? :)

Ok, I must confess that I am knee deep in NYPC politics again, its taking up my
most useful hours.  Basically boils down to money for office rent and services
to keep members.  Both nowhere to be found.

We'll keep hacking, looks like I will have to install Debian to satisfy the
members.

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Hi,

I was thinking about releasing Beta 6 this weekend, but stick with the Kernel 2.4.17.
By this way we could test our new features.
I don't think that we can solve the problems with Kernel 2.4.18 in the next couple of days.

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cu
  Heiko

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Hi,

I did several updates to the CVS tree and the source files, but I can't close the bugs on SF.
Over the last 2 days I did a lot of bugfixing in the company.

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cu
  Heiko

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Friedrich Lobenstock wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:06, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> I think we should be LSB compliant, and in the end it should be all
> the same.

I totally agree. All other Distris also try to be LSB conform, so let's 
go for this. I already started implementing this by changing the boot 
scripts.
But we still have a long way in front of us.

>>>They so much love the CD-only solution that I had to show them
>>>your self-imposed bug reporting about harddrive access. They then
>>>suggested we search for a VFAT MSDOS disk as well where we could
>>>set up a DL/LSD file system including swap space. We got a giggle
>>>when the perl install crashed the box for lack of memory.
>>>
>>This will change in the Beta6. Harddisk support (log, swap,
>>samba,...) is running. DL itself doesn't run anymore in a Ramdisk,
>>we switched to SHMFS (uses, if neccessary, swapspace)
> 
> Currently we use 40 MB SHMFS and we have 64 MB as minimum RAM
> requirement.

Did you limit it to 40 MB ?
We should change that in case somebody installs a lot of apps.

>>>Ethernet card detection is very high on the list, for obvious
>>>reasons. Once we get that, then the rest of the distributed
>>>install is a cakewalk.
>>>
>>If you think so. ;-)
>>
> 
>>From a security standpoint I would like the user to specifiy which
> module to load first because otherwise the internal and external
> interface could get swapped.
> 
> But DL for sure could become the standard versatile cdrom distro in
> the future.

I also have sometimes the problem to find out, which of the modules I 
have to use.
We could do it the way, that the user has to start (manually!) a 
program, which configures the system.
We could also think about having something in the boot concept, which 
initially configures a unconfigured system.


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cu
   Heiko

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On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:06, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The following message was sent by "John van V." <joh...@ya...> on Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:37:10 -0800 (PST).
>
> > I want to reflect the following (very constructive) comments. My
> > guys like Debian, and after showing them some problems in the LFS
> > written init.d/network script they really balked. Personally, I
> > always liked /etc/rc.local... but thats a personal preferance.
> > They want to go w/ a Debian stucture which I imagine follows
> > offical linux standards. I have been working on Solaris and HPUX
> > recently.
>
> I don't have any Debian knowledge, but when it's good what you do
> and we like it, why not change it?

I think we should be LSB compliant, and in the end it should be all
the same.

>
> > They so much love the CD-only solution that I had to show them
> > your self-imposed bug reporting about harddrive access. They then
> > suggested we search for a VFAT MSDOS disk as well where we could
> > set up a DL/LSD file system including swap space. We got a giggle
> > when the perl install crashed the box for lack of memory.
>
> This will change in the Beta6. Harddisk support (log, swap,
> samba,...) is running. DL itself doesn't run anymore in a Ramdisk,
> we switched to SHMFS (uses, if neccessary, swapspace).

Currently we use 40 MB SHMFS and we have 64 MB as minimum RAM
requirement.


> > Also, they dont like ISO Boot (by reputuation) and the society
> > already committed to Grub. My booting problem, that you fixed
> > wasnt really broken. DL was trying to boot from the CDWriter, hdc
> > not the Fast CDreader, hdd.
>
> Needs some improvements. ;-)

It's not a bug it's a feature! The first ide cdrom found will be used :)
Just kidding, we'll fix that in the next beta after 0.5b6.

> > Ethernet card detection is very high on the list, for obvious
> > reasons. Once we get that, then the rest of the distributed
> > install is a cakewalk.
>
> If you think so. ;-)

From a security standpoint I would like the user to specifiy which
module to load first because otherwise the internal and external
interface could get swapped.

But DL for sure could become the standard versatile cdrom distro in
the future.

-- 
MfG / Regards
Friedrich Lobenstock

Hi,

The following message was sent by "John van V." <joh...@ya...> on Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:37:10 -0800 (PST).

> I want to reflect the following (very constructive) comments.  My guys 
> like
> Debian, and after showing them some problems in the LFS written init.d/network
> script they really balked.  Personally, I always liked /etc/rc.local... 
> but
> thats a personal preferance.  They want to go w/ a Debian stucture which 
> I
> imagine follows offical linux standards.  I have been working on Solaris 
> and
> HPUX recently.

I don't have any Debian knowledge, but when it's good what you do and we like it, why not change it?

> They so much love the CD-only solution that I had to show them your
> self-imposed bug reporting about harddrive access.  They then suggested 
> we
> search for a VFAT MSDOS disk as well where we could set up a DL/LSD file 
> system
> including swap space.  We got a giggle when the perl install crashed the 
> box
> for lack of memory.

This will change in the Beta6.
Harddisk support (log, swap, samba,...) is running. DL itself doesn't run anymore in a Ramdisk, we switched to SHMFS (uses, if neccessary, swapspace).

> Also, they dont like ISO Boot (by reputuation) and the society already
> committed to Grub.  My booting problem, that you fixed wasnt really broken. 
>  DL
> was trying to boot from the CDWriter, hdc not the Fast CDreader, hdd.  

Needs some improvements. ;-)

> Do you
> think this is an ISO boot problem.  Can Grub work on a CD ??

I don't know group.
We had Lilo before, but SYSLINUX/ISOLINUX seems to work much better.

> I will start working on TO-DO so that we can we can refresh your CVS with 
> our
> modifications.

Would be great.

> Ethernet card detection is very high on the list, for obvious reasons. 
>  Once we
> get that, then the rest of the distributed install is a cakewalk.

If you think so. ;-)

> 
> Thanks again for all your efforts,

You're welcome.

cu
  Heiko

All the skeptics were swayed...  There is no doubt at all that the Linux
Society Distro as a DL derivative will change the course of human history.

No kidding, we are truly grateful for your efforts and are presently debating
where our parallal CVS will be housed... oh yeah, you got the BCC mailing ;)

Personally, I am not to concerned about the VALinux issues, license agreements
are just that.

I want to reflect the following (very constructive) comments.  My guys like
Debian, and after showing them some problems in the LFS written init.d/network
script they really balked.  Personally, I always liked /etc/rc.local... but
thats a personal preferance.  They want to go w/ a Debian stucture which I
imagine follows offical linux standards.  I have been working on Solaris and
HPUX recently.

They so much love the CD-only solution that I had to show them your
self-imposed bug reporting about harddrive access.  They then suggested we
search for a VFAT MSDOS disk as well where we could set up a DL/LSD file system
including swap space.  We got a giggle when the perl install crashed the box
for lack of memory.

Also, they dont like ISO Boot (by reputuation) and the society already
committed to Grub.  My booting problem, that you fixed wasnt really broken.  DL
was trying to boot from the CDWriter, hdc not the Fast CDreader, hdd.  Do you
think this is an ISO boot problem.  Can Grub work on a CD ??

They took careful note of my cdrecord scsi/ide emu changes as well as the
cdrecord command switches.  Now all we need is to recreate your development
environment on each of members workstations, get the VMWare support, and we are
on our way.

I will start working on TO-DO so that we can we can refresh your CVS with our
modifications.

Ethernet card detection is very high on the list, for obvious reasons.  Once we
get that, then the rest of the distributed install is a cakewalk.

Thanks again for all your efforts,

John and the "whole damn society"


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Bugs item #529254, was opened at 2002-03-12 22:37
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Category: Package
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: update jftpgw

Initial Comment:
New version available
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Category: Build System
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Status: Open
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Summary: new xfs patch breaks kernel compilation

Initial Comment:
something is wrong...
Had no time to do an investigation.

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>Comment By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Date: 2002-03-12 22:24

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user_id=112133

I went back to Kernel 2.4.17, until the problems are solved

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Category: Configuration / Scripts
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>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Summary: add "data" to harddisk support

Initial Comment:
add LV "data" to mountfs script and to documentation.

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Category: Configuration / Scripts
Group: None
Status: Open
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Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
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Summary: add "data" to harddisk support

Initial Comment:
add LV "data" to mountfs script and to documentation.

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Category: Build System
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Priority: 9
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
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Summary: new xfs patch breaks kernel compilation

Initial Comment:
something is wrong...
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Bugs item #528338, was opened at 2002-03-10 22:31
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Category: Build System
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>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 7
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
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Summary: xfs support missing?

Initial Comment:
either xfs support isn't compiled into the new kernel
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Bugs item #528337, was opened at 2002-03-10 22:29
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Category: Configuration / Scripts
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>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 7
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Summary: add depmod -a to boot script

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add depmod -a to boot script

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Summary: update /etc/init.d/squid

Initial Comment:
corrected version

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>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 7
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Summary: syslog script doesn't remove jail logs

Initial Comment:
The syslog-ng start script doesn't correctly removed
the parameters added by the jail script from the config
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Comment By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Date: 2002-03-11 18:37

Message:
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happend again, needs more investigation

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Category: Configuration / Scripts
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>Status: Open
Resolution: Works For Me
Priority: 7
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
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Summary: syslog script doesn't remove jail logs

Initial Comment:
The syslog-ng start script doesn't correctly removed
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Date: 2002-03-11 18:37

Message:
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happend again, needs more investigation

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Bugs item #528727, was opened at 2002-03-11 18:36
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Category: Configuration / Scripts
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Status: Open
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Priority: 7
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
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Summary: jail script and syslog

Initial Comment:
jail script should check, if specific log target is 
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Summary: update /etc/init.d/squid

Initial Comment:
corrected version

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Category: Configuration / Scripts
Group: None
>Status: Deleted
>Resolution: Works For Me
Priority: 7
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
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Summary: syslog script doesn't remove jail logs

Initial Comment:
The syslog-ng start script doesn't correctly removed
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