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From: Ben P. <be...@du...> - 2016-04-10 12:53:11
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Filled with excitement at discovering Algol68toc, having first used the language in 1974, I tried to install it on my laptop under Lubuntu. The installation failed with: install-info: No dir file specified; try --help for more information. Worse still, I am unable to remove the package in order to allow me to upgrade to Ubuntu proper, as removal fails with the same message! All advice and help will be much appreciated, Ben |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2015-10-02 09:40:40
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The ELLA source code can be browsed here: * https://github.com/NevilleDNZ/ella2000 I have not actually tried to build ELLA... An interesting graph of commits can be found here: * https://github.com/NevilleDNZ/ella2000/graphs/code-frequency Once you have set your github ssh-key the repo can be cloned via: * git clone gi...@gi...:NevilleDNZ/ella2000.git Here is a brief guide to git, Titled: "git - the simple guide" * http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/ NJoy N |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2015-05-08 03:57:13
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Yay.... Nice work. I really should get some OSx hands-on. It would be nice see algol68g ready and in the Apple store for download/install... N On 8/05/2015 1:14 pm, "Mark Wallace" <wa...@ac...> wrote: > Neville, > > PostgreSQL is now installed in OS X's /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4/ directory. > And, it does not have a “pgsql” folder anywhere. So, following your > instructions, what I did was … > > ========================= > > > > cd /usr/local > mkdir pgsql > cd pgsql > ln -s /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4/include/ include > ln -s /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4/lib/ lib > cd /Applications/algol68g-2.8.1 > ./configure > make > make check > > [RESULT:] > > ======================================================== > All 198 tests behaved as expected (70 expected failures) > ======================================================== > > make install > a68g -version > > [RESULT:] > ... > PostgreSQL is supported. > > > > ========================= > > Thanks for your assistance, > > Mark > > P.S. Here’s the top-level structure of the PostgreSQL installation on OS X > 10.10.3 > > Marks-iMac:9.4 $ pwd > /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4 > Marks-iMac:9.4 $ ls -l > total 120 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 51712 Mar 22 23:33 3rd_party_licenses.txt > drwxr-xr-x 39 root daemon 1326 May 6 10:49 bin > drwx------ 26 postgres daemon 884 May 6 10:49 data > drwxr-xr-x 6 root daemon 204 Mar 12 17:49 doc > drwxr-xr-x 33 root daemon 1122 Mar 12 17:49 include > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 installer > drwxr-xr-x 61 root daemon 2074 May 6 10:49 lib > -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 2476 Jan 5 14:51 license.txt > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 pgAdmin3.app > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root daemon 373 May 6 10:49 pg_env.sh > drwxr-xr-x 12 root daemon 408 May 6 10:49 scripts > drwxr-xr-x 4 root daemon 136 Mar 12 17:49 share > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 stackbuilder.app > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 > uninstall-postgresql.app > > |
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From: Mark W. <wa...@ac...> - 2015-05-08 03:14:13
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Neville, PostgreSQL is now installed in OS X's /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4/ directory. And, it does not have a “pgsql” folder anywhere. So, following your instructions, what I did was … ========================= cd /usr/local mkdir pgsql cd pgsql ln -s /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4/include/ include ln -s /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4/lib/ lib cd /Applications/algol68g-2.8.1 ./configure make make check [RESULT:] ======================================================== All 198 tests behaved as expected (70 expected failures) ======================================================== make install a68g -version [RESULT:] ... PostgreSQL is supported. ========================= Thanks for your assistance, Mark P.S. Here’s the top-level structure of the PostgreSQL installation on OS X 10.10.3 Marks-iMac:9.4 $ pwd /Library/PostgreSQL/9.4 Marks-iMac:9.4 $ ls -l total 120 -rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 51712 Mar 22 23:33 3rd_party_licenses.txt drwxr-xr-x 39 root daemon 1326 May 6 10:49 bin drwx------ 26 postgres daemon 884 May 6 10:49 data drwxr-xr-x 6 root daemon 204 Mar 12 17:49 doc drwxr-xr-x 33 root daemon 1122 Mar 12 17:49 include drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 installer drwxr-xr-x 61 root daemon 2074 May 6 10:49 lib -rw-rw-r-- 1 root daemon 2476 Jan 5 14:51 license.txt drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 pgAdmin3.app -rwxr-xr-x 1 root daemon 373 May 6 10:49 pg_env.sh drwxr-xr-x 12 root daemon 408 May 6 10:49 scripts drwxr-xr-x 4 root daemon 136 Mar 12 17:49 share drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 stackbuilder.app drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 102 Mar 12 17:49 uninstall-postgresql.app |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2015-05-08 00:16:24
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Hi Mark... Caveat... I'm using Linux, not OSxDarwin/Hexley... But.... I performed a grep on source algol68g-2.8.1/configure and found that 3 different directories are scanned for: 328:if test -d /usr/local/pgsql/include; then 336:if test -d /usr/pkg/pgsql/include; then 344:if test -d /opt/local/pgsql/include; then 352:if test -d /usr/include/postgresql; then re: OSx/Darwin/Hexley directories ... http://osxdaily.com/2007/03/30/mac-os-x-directory-structure-explained/ * /Developer The Developer directory appears only if you have installed Apple’s Developer Tools, and no surprise, contains developer related tools * /Library Shared libraries, files necessary for the operating system to function properly, including settings, preferences, and other necessities (note: you also have a Libraries folder in your home directory, which holds files specific to th * /System System related files, libraries, preference * /usr Second major hierarchy, includes subdirectories that contain information, configuration files, and other essentials used by the o I'd suggest finding where postgres gets installed on OSx/Darwin/Hexley and to a "ln -s" of the directory into (probably) /usr/local/pgsql/include The other directory to worry about is postgres's "lib" directory... That will probably need a symbolic link into /usr/local/pgsql/lib. This is probably (hopefully) all you need to do. Note: I have included an entrance of in APPENDIX A below detailing options and environ variables... Some influential environment variables: ... LIBS libraries to pass to the linker, e.g. -l<library> ... [so maybe you dont need to symlink the lib dir] Use these variables to override the choices made by `configure' or to help it to find libraries and programs with nonstandard names/locations. If you email Marcel the typical location of pgsql/include & pgsql/lib on OSx/Darwin/Hexley (and any other hacks you find necessary) then I'd bet that magically a68g will install without symbolic links in the next release. I'm thinking that (with you hint) LD_LIBRARY_PATH could be incorporated into algol68g-2.8.2/configure.ac for autoreconf/automake. Finally you will ned to run the 200 some algol68g/testset ... Maybe it's time I gave OSx/Darwin/Hexley Good luck NevilleD APPENDIX A Optional Features: --disable-option-checking ignore unrecognized --enable/--with options --disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as --enable-FEATURE=no) --enable-FEATURE[=ARG] include FEATURE [ARG=yes] --enable-arch=cpu if using gcc, enable emitting architecture-tuned assembly code (default is "no") --enable-compiler enable unit compiler (default is "yes") --enable-curses if installed, enable curses library (default is "yes") --enable-readline if installed, enable readline library (default is "yes") --enable-gsl if installed, enable GNU Scientific Library (default is "yes") --enable-parallel enable Algol 68 parallel-clause (default is "yes") --enable-pic=option if using gcc, enable option to generate PIC (default is "-fPIC") --enable-prescott if using gcc, enable optimisation for P4 Prescott (default is "no") --enable-plotutils if installed, enable GNU plotting utilities (default is "yes") --enable-postgresql if installed, enable PostgreSQL (default is "yes") --disable-dependency-tracking speeds up one-time build --enable-dependency-tracking do not reject slow dependency extractors --disable-assert turn off assertions Some influential environment variables: CC C compiler command CFLAGS C compiler flags LDFLAGS linker flags, e.g. -L<lib dir> if you have libraries in a nonstandard directory <lib dir> LIBS libraries to pass to the linker, e.g. -l<library> CPPFLAGS C/C++/Objective C preprocessor flags, e.g. -I<include dir> if you have headers in a nonstandard directory <include dir> CPP C preprocessor Use these variables to override the choices made by `configure' or to help it to find libraries and programs with nonstandard names/locations. APPENDIX B: [algol68g-2.8.1]$ egrep -ni "pgsql|postgres" configure.ac 61:# Check whether $1 is in PostgreSQL. 63:AC_DEFUN([A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL], 64: [AC_CHECK_DECL([$1], [], [enable_postgresql=no], [ 67: AC_CHECK_LIB([pq], [$1], [a68g_unexpected=yes], [enable_postgresql=no]) 171:AC_ARG_ENABLE(postgresql, [AS_HELP_STRING([--enable-postgresql], [if installed, enable PostgreSQL (default is "yes")])], , enable_postgresql=yes) 328:if test -d /usr/local/pgsql/include; then 329: AC_DEFINE(HAVE_USR_LOCAL_PGSQL_INCLUDE, 1, [Define this if /usr/local/pgsql/include was detected]) 330: CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -I/usr/local/pgsql/include" 331: CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS -I/usr/local/pgsql/include" 332: CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -I/usr/local/pgsql/include" 333: LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -L/usr/local/pgsql/lib" 336:if test -d /usr/pkg/pgsql/include; then 337: AC_DEFINE(HAVE_USR_PKG_PGSQL_INCLUDE, 1, [Define this if /usr/pkg/pgsql/include was detected]) 338: CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -I/usr/pkg/pgsql/include" 339: CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS -I/usr/pkg/pgsql/include" 340: CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -I/usr/pkg/pgsql/include" 341: LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -L/usr/pkg/pgsql/lib" 344:if test -d /opt/local/pgsql/include; then 345: AC_DEFINE(HAVE_OPT_LOCAL_PGSQL_INCLUDE, 1, [Define this if /opt/local/pgsql/include was detected]) 346: CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -I/opt/local/pgsql/include" 347: CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS -I/opt/local/pgsql/include" 348: CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -I/opt/local/pgsql/include" 349: LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -L/opt/local/pgsql/lib" 352:if test -d /usr/include/postgresql; then 353: AC_DEFINE(HAVE_USR_INCLUDE_POSTGRESQL, 1, [Define this if /usr/include/postgresql was detected]) 354: CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -I/usr/include/postgresql" 355: CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS -I/usr/include/postgresql" 356: CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -I/usr/include/postgresql" 618:if test "x$enable_postgresql" = "xyes"; then 619: AC_MSG_NOTICE([PostgreSQL...]) 620: AC_CHECK_HEADERS([libpq-fe.h], [], [enable_postgresql=no], []) 621: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQbackendPID) 622: if test "x$enable_postgresql" = "xyes"; then 623: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQclear) 624: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQcmdStatus) 625: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQcmdTuples) 626: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQconnectdb) 627: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQdb) 628: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQerrorMessage) 629: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQexec) 630: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQfformat) 631: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQfinish) 632: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQfname) 633: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQfnumber) 634: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQgetisnull) 635: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQgetvalue) 636: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQhost) 637: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQnfields) 638: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQntuples) 639: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQoptions) 640: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQparameterStatus) 641: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQpass) 642: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQport) 643: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQprotocolVersion) 644: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQreset) 645: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQresultErrorMessage) 646: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQresultStatus) 647: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQserverVersion) 648: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQsocket) 649: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQstatus) 650: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQtty) 651: A68G_AC_POSTGRESQL(PQuser) 653: if test "x$enable_postgresql" = "xyes"; then 655: AC_DEFINE(HAVE_POSTGRESQL, 1, [Define this if a good PostgreSQL installation was detected]) 694:if test "x$enable_postgresql" = "xyes"; then 695: AC_MSG_NOTICE([building with PostgreSQL]) APPENDIX C algol68g-2.8.1]$ ls algol68g-2.8.1/test-set a68g.mc.001.appl01.a68 a68g.mc.067.idef11.a68 a68g.mc.133.scop08.a68 a68g.mc.002.appl02.a68 a68g.mc.068.idef12.a68 a68g.mc.134.scop09.a68 ... a68g.mc.066.idef10.a68 a68g.mc.132.scop07.a68 a68g.ur.198.r9.a68 |
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From: Mark W. <wa...@ac...> - 2015-05-06 18:44:52
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Environment: iMac, 16GB RAM, Mac OS X 10.10.3 ========== I'm having one problem with the initial installation of a68g on an Apple Mac. The command $ a68g --version reports: Algol 68 Genie 2.8.1 Copyright 2015 Marcel van der Veer <alg...@xs...>. This is free software covered by the GNU General Public License. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY for Algol 68 Genie; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. Please report bugs to Marcel van der Veer <alg...@xs...>. Compilation is supported. Parallel-clause is supported. Curses is supported. Regular expressions are supported. TCP/IP is supported. GNU libplot is supported. GNU Scientific Library is supported. PostgreSQL is not supported. [emphasis added ^^^] ========== Installation process (run using Terminal in the /Applications/algol68g-2.8.1 directory): 1. $ ./configure 2. $ make 3. $ make check 4. $ make install No options specified on “configure” and no errors or warnings from any of the steps. ========== I do have PostgreSQL 9.4 installed and running on my machine, and would like to discover how to make a68g aware of its existence. My environment includes the line: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Library/PostgreSQL/9.4/include Random thoughts: 1. It could be a permissions issue, as almost everything in that directory hierarchy is owned by "root" whereas the PostgreSQL installation created its own user, and I have a68g under my own account. But since I don't have any idea what a68g "wants" from PostgreSQL, I'm reluctant to start changing ownerships and permissions at random. 2. Maybe the PostgreSQL default installation on Mac OS X is different enough from Unix/Linux so that the algol68g installer isn’t able to find PostgreSQL, even though I did add the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to my environment (see above). ========== TIA for any ideas to get the two programs connected, Mark |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2015-05-05 07:23:49
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The following is a simple digest of the posts on Algol68@linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Algol68-2333923 Project & Resource URLs: * http://algol68.sourceforge.net/ - a complier collection * http://jmvdveer.home.xs4all.nl/algol.html - Algol68 Genie * mainto:alg...@li... - mailinglist * http://rosettacode.org/wiki/ALGOL_68 - sample source code * https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Algol68-2333923 - forum * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL_68 Some 300 Wikipedia references... * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/ALGOL_68&limit=300 The posts at Linked-In are a useful resource for past, present and future Algol68 Projects... Where may one request community support for a68g? * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5999635935682117632 Hello world * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5999632534617538562 Closures in Algol68G, bug in partial parametrization * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5919439579030519811 Wikipedia: ... Algol68G article has been removed ... (sigh) * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5917118001047425026 The pioneers.... * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5888002837660577795 Humour thread - some (very) old Algol68 jokes. * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5838423412808105985 For sale: International Algol68 Books, relics and memorabilia etc... * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5819834391500701698 In memory of Dr. John E.L. Peck * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5806888443766128640 Topics: OT but interesting - Early chess "algorithms"... Starting with Konrad Zuse... * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5798364077747097601 Algol 68 Genie 2.8 * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-5792694027010715651 The Cambridge CAP Computer - Andrew Herbert (from RESURRECTION - The Bulletin of the Computer Conservation Society - Number 63; Autumn 2013 * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-270561804 Documents available, including 1970 ALGOL 68 Implementation proceedings * http://http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-268406191 Algol68 blogging.... * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-257380133 Topic: Misc Algol68 apps and/or projects - Have you spotted, or started any interesting apps written in Algol68 lately?... * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-252368066 Links to Historical snippets * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-244088880 is Algol68 being taught at any university ? and i'm not talking about teaching Algol's history :) * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-232407259 Contributions welcomed: A living list of online Algol68 implementations, releases, binaries or installer builds... (past and/or present, created and/or just discovered * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-227800245 In memoriam Kees Koster * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-225492546 Progress in programming languages? * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-218318432 History of computing interview with Susan bond * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-218264917 Algol here and there in popular culture. * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-217010662 New Scientist 9 Jan 1975 - "Mini computers learn more "posh" languages" * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-203900439 An academic question regarding: Ten15 code generator for ALGOL_68RS => Ten15 * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-199838936 Did Dijkstra et al kill Algol 68 with their "minority report" comment about Algol * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-195838661 I'm trying to find an Algol68 syntax highlighting file for Vim. * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-195183766 George3 running on Raspberry Pi * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-188452437 1993: A History of ALGOL 68 - C. H. Lindsey (4.3M PDF), Includes a candid reflection of language design process "Revision by mail", language feature struggles "The Bend" & various ambiguities enroute * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-182145895 Parallel processing in Algol-68 -on Ericsson's APN-162 computer. * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-151439723 Algol68C Release 1.3039beta for IBM 360/370/etc mainframes (or their emulations) running MVT or M * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-143236831 Hyperlinked Revised Report * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-131708258 Execute Algol 68 script online * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-129526589 Collaboration(?) through the Iron Curtain. * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-125746993 Soviet implementers - Prominent Woman in Computing History – Natalia, Lanit Tercom * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-125190021 Building an Algol68 interpreter for the Raspberry Pi * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-106032152 Talk: Bringing Algol68 forward to its own time - Nov 2011 * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-86611173 Glad to have found this group. I have vivid and fond memories of the ALGOL 68 class I took from van Wijngaarden some 35 years ago in Amsterdam * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-74093634 Barry J. Mailloux's doctoral dissertation now on-line * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-60693399 HughesJohn has just posted an expanded ALGOL 68R page on wikipedia * http://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/2333923-50671250 <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/ALGOL_68&limit=300> |
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From: Charles L. <ch...@cl...> - 2015-03-12 11:41:44
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Some of you guys might like to contact this guy and tell him that Algol 68 was not so unsuccessful as he claims (for a start, both C and the Bourne SHell owe much to it). Algol W was an interesting intermediate stage, but lacked some of the nest ideas. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Henry Levkin <hl...@ya...> Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:33 PM Subject: new website algol60.org Dear Sir, New about old: site algol60.org may be interesting for you. Concept of this web-site: Algol60 Resurrection as a modern programming language! Condensed description of it: - Algol 60 compilers and documentation - around 200 Algol 60 programs for studying / teaching - Algol W compiler, documentation and 300 programs for studying / teaching - Proposal of Algol 60 Extended report. Implementation of it makes this classic language as new one - comparison of Algol 60 with Fortran II and with Algol W - review of the history of programming concept creation in the order: autocode -> fortran-> algol 60 -> algol W -> C If you have something to add to the subject of this site and want to allocate it here, we will be happy to do it. Critics are welcome! P.S. Good theme for student's graduate degree: Develop Compiler from Extended(!) Algol60. This compiler will be very popular! -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: ch...@cl... Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 |
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From: jay s. <jsh...@li...> - 2013-12-03 11:28:00
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Hi Marcel, We are adding support for new ppc64le (IBM powerPC Little Endian) architecture as part of which we are looking at all the packages that need update. I was looking at algol68g-2.8 tarball and was failed to build on ppc64le machine because of outdated config.guess. Latest config.guess with ppc64le support is available at : http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.guess;hb=HEAD Would it be possible for you to spin up a newer version of "algol68" with latest config.guess ? Alternatively, if you want us to send a patch to config.guess, we can do so too. I can help to validate the new release tarball of the "algol68" works well by compiling on ppc64le machine. Currently I downloaded tar ball from given below links: http://jmvdveer.home.xs4all.nl/algol.html tarball : algol68g-2.8.tar.gz Appreciate your response. Thanks and Regards, Jay Shankar |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2012-08-07 04:48:23
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A thread from linkedin.com: http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&gid=2333923&type=member&item=143236831&qid=5b79c1d1-c525-48a3-85b9-ab7368f506e5&goback=.anp_2333923_1344308861210_1.gmp_2333923 URL: http://www.cantab.net/users/chris.cheney/Algol68C Chris's link contains additional information, including a summary of current enhancements and a tentative road map. Also: I am curious to hear the various stories about who, what & how Algol68C was being used in the wild. In previous incarnations Algol68C was used to compile code for PDP-7, Zilog Z80, IBM 370, DECsystem-10/-20, and Telefunken TR440/TR445 and probably others... Many ThanX to Chris. (& el?) NJoy NevilleD |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-02-14 17:17:01
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I have just uploaded the latest version of my file viewer, called pv. You will need the pv.fd form definition file as well as pv.w68 which contains all the callbacks and processing. No doubt the program will grow as I think of new things for it to do, but it will list tarballs like .tar.gz or .tar.bz2, and .zip files and will also list the contents of a Debian package. All simple stuff really. It also features exact text searching and regular expression searching. Much like xless except that it does not read anything from stand in. And the widgets are much nicer. Maybe you will find it useful. It's just a small utility for my own use, but my especial friend asked me to upload it to my web-site so that she could download it, compile it and use it. Regards -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2012-02-12 23:25:39
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Hi Sian, re: Web 68 Literate Programming System Have you spotted the "refinement preprocessor" in algol68g? example: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Flow-control_structures#ALGOL_68G_implements_a_Refinement_Preprocessor_to_aid_with_top_down_code_development BEGIN # code # determine first generation; WHILE can represent next generation DO calculate next generation; print next generation OD. determine first generation: INT previous := 1, current := 3. can represent next generation: current <= max int - previous. calculate next generation: INT new = current + previous; previous := current; current := new. print next generation: printf (($lz","3z","3z","2z-d$, current, $xz","3z","3z","2z-d$, previous, $xd.n(real width - 1)d$, current / previous)). END # code # It looks like Web 68 Literate Programming have a common inspiration. Indeed here is another implementation: http://en.literateprograms.org/Fibonacci_numbers_%28ALGOL_68%29 On another topic: Your algol68-devel package is a great job. History tells us that the actually language is just the first step. Next comes the development environment, libraries and APIs. I do have one suggestion. Can you impose a release & version number on algol68-devel. Eg algol68-devel-0.1.tar.bz Basically copy of your work will float around the Internet, and a version number help people to differentiate algol68-devel updates. Finally: Many thanX for the "exec piped child" bug fix. Cheers NevilleDNZ On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 18:08 +0000, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > The macro "exec piped child" is now working. You will need the file > algol68-devel.tar.bz2 in directory algol68 of web site > www.poenikatu.co.uk. Control child processes and accept their output. > Now you can write useful programs using the Web 68 Literate Programming > System. See Web68 subdirectory in algol68-devel.tar.bz2. You will also > need the Debian algol68toc package (now at version 1.13) also on the > above web-site. > > End of advertisement > > Regards |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-02-12 18:08:46
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The macro "exec piped child" is now working. You will need the file algol68-devel.tar.bz2 in directory algol68 of web site www.poenikatu.co.uk. Control child processes and accept their output. Now you can write useful programs using the Web 68 Literate Programming System. See Web68 subdirectory in algol68-devel.tar.bz2. You will also need the Debian algol68toc package (now at version 1.13) also on the above web-site. End of advertisement Regards -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-02-11 13:38:01
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Since members of this mailing list are known to like peculiar algorithms which have been posted to rosettacode.org, I should like to bring a peculiar bug to your attention. You have, no doubt, heard of the standard prelude procedures `whole', `fixed' and `float'. They convert an integer, of any length, or a real of any precision to a STRING (or []CHAR). Please find attached a small test program which produces anomalous results for fixed, but float always gets it right. When I run the program, I get pi/4/=1.0 in the output which suggests something funny about the code for `fixed'. The Algol 68 code for `fixed' is in the module `spconvert.a68' in the qad directory of the algol68toc_1.13.tar.bz2 tarball. Anybody willing to debug `fixed'? Regards -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-02-10 17:56:47
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Dear All, Have just uploaded version 1.13 of algol68toc (Debian package) to www.poenikatu.co.uk. It cures a bug in ROUND and ENTIER such that if the REAL parameter exceeds max int, then it is clamped to max int. Also, the script ca68 has been renamed and upgraded to take account of the new parameters of tang. Note that the book "Programming Algol 68 Made Easy" has been removed from the package because it is now available on my web-site. I look forward to hearing of people using the package. Regards -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2012-01-31 02:22:44
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For me Algol68 is a recreational activity, kind of like having a 1968 Jaguar E-Type as a weekend car. I learned to code in Algol68 in the 1980s. Then in the 1990s I used a search engine find out what happened to Algol68 and found only one code sample on the Internet!!! Ironically in 2000 an Eighth Grader - Andrew Ferguson - wrote that Algol68 was "boated": * http://www.cs.brown.edu/~adf/programming_languages.html Bloated? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jaguar_XK6_engine.jpg It is strange definition of bloated!?! And a different kind of monster! So... November 2007 I added Algol68 to rosettacode.org. By 20th December 2008 "Zig Zag matrix" became the 100th ALGOL 68 code contribution added to rosettacode.org! http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Zig-zag_matrix#ALGOL_68 There are now 300+ plus code sample contributions by myself and others. These specimen compare Algol68 to some 400+ other more contemporary programming languages. http://rosettacode.org/wiki/ALGOL_68#Code_Specimen Certainly I enjoy Algol68's type security, kind of like having modern airbags fitted to an E-Type. So let the 1968 code - side by side with contemporary languages - speak for itself. re: Xforms. ThanX for Xforms. A good way to highlight a tool kit is to show case the tool with lots of useful examples. Rosettacode could be a good place to contribute. The only current example I can think of is: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Dragon_curve#ALGOL_68 Also note that the GUI toolkit required is often dictated by the OS and Architecture that the program is expected to run on. Hence (as one ports from Unix to Windows to Linux to iPhone to Android) the GUI requirements change. This may be why there is no common toolkit across all these platforms. It will be interesting to see the tasks and challenges others are putting Algol68 to. NJoy NevilleDNZ (BTW: Andrews 8th grade commentary has now been cut and paste into numerous undergraduate history assignment this century and makes an interesting study of Internet dynamics) On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 14:36 +0000, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > I should be interested to hear what people are using Algol 68 FOR. > I have written an Algol 68 binding of the Xforms library so that it > is possible to write Algol 68 programs which use widgets: buttons, > menus, browsers, input fields, etc. However, the interest in such > a tool appears to be NIL (a famous Algol 68 construct). > > So what are you doing with the language? > -- > Sian Mountbatten > poe...@fa... |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2012-01-31 02:12:57
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This link has some interesting (Non Algol68) examples of what can be achieved with xforms: http://xforms-toolkit.org/screenshots/ * two applications developed for the Virgo experiment, an interferometric detector for gravitational waves. * VLF signal analyser - a spectrogram and oscilloscope * DineAmix Point of Sales package for restaurants & retail industries * Heisch Automation's visualization system of a tile plant in Turkey * Heisch Automation's program for handling stock exchange data * J. T. Törring'a program, fsc2, for controlling spectrometers. They show time-resolved and cw EPR (Electron Paramagnetic Resonance) experiments NJoy N |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-01-30 14:36:41
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I should be interested to hear what people are using Algol 68 FOR. I have written an Algol 68 binding of the Xforms library so that it is possible to write Algol 68 programs which use widgets: buttons, menus, browsers, input fields, etc. However, the interest in such a tool appears to be NIL (a famous Algol 68 construct). So what are you doing with the language? -- Sian Mountbatten poe...@fa... -- Sian Mountbatten poe...@fa... |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-01-29 20:43:14
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Today I have uploaded to www.poenikatu.co.uk/algol68/ the testing version of the Algol 68 binding of the Xforms library. You will need the Web68 system (a literate programming system for Algol 68). Let me know if you have any problems with the binding. It has not been tested thoroughly, but most of it should work. The tarball algol68-devel.tar.bz2 has been updated with the source of some utilities which no longer use Algol 68 arguments, but the normal Linux arguments of a program. The regex module and include file have also been debugged. Regular expressions are useful in all sorts of ways. The Algol 68 regular expression module and include file use the regular expressions provided by the FTE editor except that the set complement is not ^ but ~ and the set range character is not - but :. The regular expression metacharacters can be changed to suit the programmer. See rx init. GUI programming is never easy, but Algol 68 makes it interesting. -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist -- Sian Mountbatten poe...@fa... |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2012-01-24 14:04:13
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Hi Sian, You may be interested to know of "latex2html". This permits publishing a latex document in parallel on the web as a html file. There are pluses and minuses to this. One plus is that the search engines will index specific pages, and thereby increase exposure of the document as a whole. Regards N http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=latex2html On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:21 +0000, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > I have today uploaded the source of algol68toc-1.12 as a tarball. > Would you note that the book "Programming Algol 68 Made Easy" has been > deleted from the package because the definitive version is now on my > web site. You will find a link to it on the "Software engineering with > Algol 68" page. > > Regards > -- > Sian Mountbatten > Algol 68 specialist |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-01-23 11:21:23
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I have today uploaded the source of algol68toc-1.12 as a tarball. Would you note that the book "Programming Algol 68 Made Easy" has been deleted from the package because the definitive version is now on my web site. You will find a link to it on the "Software engineering with Algol 68" page. Regards -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist -- Sian Mountbatten poe...@fa... |
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-01-21 14:50:33
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After some detective work, I have squashed a bug in the program fdtow68 which converts a Xforms library form definition file to a Web68 module which provides procedures to create all the forms. I am uploading the corrected source of fdtow68 to www.poenikatu.co.uk/algol68/ Visit that directory and download and compile the Web68 file. The command to compile the program is simply "ca68 fdtow68.w68". The command to compile a converted form definition file is "ca68 -m mod formidfd.w68" where mod refers to the library "libmod.a" residing in ~/lib. Do email me if you are using algol68toc and my Xforms Algol 68 binding. -- Sian Mountbatten poe...@fa... |
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From: <je...@gn...> - 2012-01-19 22:27:41
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Hi Sian.
Where can I find the sources for algol68toc 1.12? I have a local git
repository based on 1.11 with several patches applied to it. In
particular I adpated the garbage collector to work in both 32 and 64 bit
machines. I also added some new options to ca64 to make it easier to
build Algol68 programs with automake.
I would be happy to send the patches to you if you are interested.
PS: I love your book PAME :)
--
Jose E. Marchesi http://www.jemarch.net
GNU Project http://www.gnu.org
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From: Sian M. <poe...@fa...> - 2012-01-19 21:41:03
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There was a bug in the ENTIER operator. Version 1.12 of the package has now been uploaded to www.poenikatu.co.uk/algol68/. Furthermore, the HTML version of my book Programming Algol 68 Made Easy has now been uploaded to the above web site. The book teaches the language from scratch and does not presume any programming expertise. The book has been converted to HTML and is replete with links. Answers to exercises are given with a link from the exercise to the answer and another link back again. The index looks awful, but does work. Coupled with my Algol 68 development system, Algollers now have no excuse to not write programs in Algol 68. Long live Algol 68 and the Xforms library! Ciao -- Sian Mountbatten Algol 68 specialist |
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From: Neville D. <Nev...@sg...> - 2012-01-13 03:33:35
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Hi Sian,
Just wrote and ran out a simple "helloworld.a68" program with the newest
algol68toc-1.11-2 RPM on vanilla Centos_5 and Centos_6.2 (RHEL5 and
RHEL6.2) and it works great. Well done. SEE BELOW.
I also downloaded your algol68toc_1.11.tar.bz2 source tarball. Can I
tempt you to provide a algol68toc-1.11-2.src.rpm to algol68toc can be
automatically built on each platform? (For example: You could add
a .rule in to make the .src.rpm in your Makefile... that way
the .src.rpm will be available for all future releases)
¢ Note: RPMs also are used by RHEL (and derivatives like Centos, Oracle,
Scientific-Linux etc), and also openSUSE, SLES and Mandriva. ¢
Happy New Year
NevilleDNZ
Here is a demo of the log of running a simple hello world program...
First download algol68toc-1.11-2.i386.rpm, then:
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# rpm -Uvh algol68toc-1.11-2.i386.rpm
Preparing... ########################################### [100%]
1:algol68toc ########################################### [100%]
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$ cat helloworld.a68
PROGRAM helloworld
CONTEXT VOID
USE standard
BEGIN
print(("hello, world", new line))
END
FINISH
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$ a68toc -dir /usr/share/algol68toc/ -uname HW helloworld.a68
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hello, world
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$ cat /etc/redhat-release;uname -a
CentOS release 5.7 (Final)
Linux tikanga.sgr-a.net 2.6.18-274.12.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Nov 29 13:37:35 EST 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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$ cat /etc/redhat-release; uname -a
CentOS release 6.2 (Final)
Linux goddard.4068.qld.aus.eth.sun.sgr-a.net 2.6.32-220.2.1.el6.i686 #1 SMP Thu Dec 22 18:50:52 GMT 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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$ wc -c helloworld.* helloworld
98 helloworld.a68
33820 helloworld.c
2636 helloworld.o
226568 helloworld
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 20:49 +0000, Sian Mountbatten wrote:
> The latest version of the ELLA algol68toc compiler can be found in
> the following directory: <http://www.poenikatu.co.uk/algol68/>.
> The file algol68toc_1.11_i386.deb is a Debian package which
> installs all its contents in the places specified by the Debian project.
> The file algol68-devel.tar.bz2, which can be found in the same
> directory, contains the files necessary to set up my Algol 68
> development system and includes the Algol 68 binding to the
> Xforms library. It also includes the first program for the Literate
> Programming system: tang (instead of Knuth's tangle, but does
> the same job for Algol 68).
>
> I have also converted the package to rpm format for RedHat
> users. You will find it in the algol68 directory.
>
> Happy algolling!
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